Anyone know about "tied tubes"?

[sandserene]

Hey all .... I have a friend at work that has 2 girls, her youngest just coming up on her 1st birthday. My friend had her tubes tied after giving birth to her last daughter and is now contemplating the fact that she may want another baby. I know that the operation can be reversed and I also know that there is a slim chance of becoming prego with tied tubes. What I am wondering is if anyone knows any little tricks that would make her chances of becoming pregnant without having the reversal done???

[Rhiannon]

[glow=black,2,600]Sorry I am just now getting to this. Tubal Ligations cannot always be reversed, which is why I, personally, would not have one done. I like to keep my options open. I'm not sure if anything would increase her chances, but I do know of a few herbs that can increase the chances of getting pregnant under normal conditions. I think I'll just quote one page from my favorite site instead of writing it all myslef from several sites.

"What herbs are useful in establishing fertility?




Causes of fertility problems are complex and vary from woman to woman as well as from couple to couple. However, many women have used the help of certain herbs to establish pregnancy with very good results and without the side effects often associated with fertility drugs.

A basic approach to use with fertility herbs is to focus on the following:

~ Establish normal hormonal functioning

~ Nourish & Tone the Uterus

~ Reduce Stress and Relax the Nervous System

~ Balance Sexual Desire


~ Useful Fertility Herbs ~


RED CLOVER BLOSSOMS Susun Weed lists this as the single most useful herb in establishing fertility. This herb's high vitamin content is very valuable to the uterus and it's high protein content benefits the whole body. It's also quite high in calcium & magnesium which relax the nervous system and help promote fertility. This herb also contains nearly every trace mineral needed by the glands. Daily use can help balance hormonal functioning.

Drink 1 or more cups of infusion daily for several months.

If you can't gather your own clover flowers, you can buy the dried blossoms by the lb from a reputable source and add to your daily infusions.



NETTLE LEAVES This herb is very nourishing to the whole system, specifically the adrenals and kidneys. It's also a helpful uterine tonic. The high clorophyll and mineral content are good for the hormonal system.

Drink 1 or more cups of infusion daily for several months.




RASPBERRY LEAF This is probably the most popular of all fertility herbs. It is a well known uterine tonic and is also quite high in calcium. It's fertility promoting effects are most useful when combined with Red Clover.


DONG QUAI This herb is traditionally valued as a very effective fertility promoter. For best results, herbalists suggest using this herb in tincture form during the days between ovulation and menstruation only. Use this herb in only in combination with other fertility herbs.




FALSE UNICORN ROOT This herb is a uterine tonic which also helps to alkalinize the ovaries, bladder and kidneys. 5-15 drops of the tincture per day is the standard dosage.



DAMIANA This herb has been used traditionally for toning the nervous system, balancing hormones and increasing sex drive. It needs to be used consistently over several weeks. You can buy he bulk dried herb and make capsules.




~ Fertility Brew ~

1 oz. dried RED CLOVER BLOSSOMS


1 oz. dried NETTLE LEAVES


1 oz. dried RASPBERRY LEAF

Prepare an infusion of these herbs using 1 quart of boiling water.

Steep herbs overnight. Strain and drink freely throughout the day.

You may add 5-15 drops of EITHER Dong Quai tincture OR False Unicorn Root tincture to 1 cup of the above infusion ONCE DAILY. (In other words, if you drink all 4 cups of the infusion in 1 day add one of the tinctures to only 1 of those cups of infusion.)


~ ~ ~



In addition to the spefic actions of herbs, it's important to address lifestyle factors as well, including nutrition.


Calcium and Magnesium are said to be vital in affecting a woman's ability to conceive and carry a baby. Get yourself a Vitamin & Mineral Chart and put it up on the refrigerator."

For a little more, look here:
www.herbalremediesinfo.com/fertility_article.html

And I found this in one of my searches. I though it was interesting, so I'll share it with you. However, I don't know the effectiveness. It is for contraception.

"An herbal remedy with an ancient history is currently receiving attention as a potential tool in population control. Hibiscus rosa sinensis is a common ornamental plant cultivated widely throughout India and Burma. Flowers of this plant are said to possess anti-fertility property by ancient Ayurvedic texts. Traditional use of the flowers in Kerala (Southern India) is for its emmenagogue and contraceptive action.

A problem common to pharmacological studies of plant remedies is the proper identification of most therapeutically active part of the plant, the best ecological conditions to grow or collect it from and the season variations. The Indian research team have found that only the flowers showed significant activity. This anti-fertility action was maximum during winter followed by spring then rainy and minimum in summer season.12

Much modern research has shown the flowers to have a post-coital anti-fertility activity. An example is a study undertaken in 1976 that indicated that the H. rosa sinensis flowers possess significant antifertility activity with the effects dependant upon the dose, duration of the treatment and the stage of the pregnancy. The presence of potent anti-estrogenic activity in the flower portion may be the responsible factor in terminating pregnancy.

An antifertility agent can work by any one or combination of factors. These can include, rapid expulsion of the fertilized ova from the fallopian tube or by the tube locking mechanism; as a blastocyst-toxic agent; by the inhibition of implantation due to a disturbance in estrogen-progesterone balance; or through foetal absorption or abortion, perhaps due to lack of supply of nutrients to the uterus and thus to the embryo.

In the light of above observations, it seems probable that the maximum anti-fertility activity occurs via inhibition of implantation. A restriction of oestrogen levels, which is indispensable for implantation, is considered a probable cause in termination of pregnancy. The researchers demonstrated that the herbal extract possesses potent anti-estrogenic property. On the basis of present evidences it seems probable that, the treatment alters, in one way or other, the delicate estrogen-progesterone balance, resulting in termination of pregnancy.13

Not only does H. rosa sinensis have an impact on female reproduction but also on that of males. Extracts of the flowers also affect the generation of sperm as well as the endocrine function of the testes themselves. The herbs' effect upon the male reproductive system has been studied in rats by observation of changes in weight, histology and endocrine functions."
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[sandserene]

Thank you! I will pass the information along to her!

[janet]

I think it also depends on what exactly she had done. I cannot get pregnant again - my body can't sustain another pregnancy, so I had to have it done. I had them cut, then tied and then burned........that seems pretty irreversible. What did she have done? I wish her luck - it is heartbreaking to know that you can't have anymore - but I know for me, if I did, I would be endangering myself, and possibly taking my kids' mother away from them.........

[sandserene]

Not quite sure exactly to what extent she had it done. I don't know much about it.
Sorry to hear you can't have anymore
Ya know it is always the one's that would want several that can't have as many as they want or any at all.
I am not one of those ... in fact, I thought I wanted 0 - but got pregnant, I am very happy I had my son and he has added meaning to my life I would have never found elsewhere. But I NEVER want to be pregnant or give birth again. Maybe it is because I come from a big family - my dad has 8 bros and sisters all with kids (I am the oldest cousin), my mom has 3 bros and sisters all with kids (again I am the oldest) and I have 4 bros and sisters - AGAIN the oldest. So I was around a lot of younger kids growing up.